So...I feel really stupid that I can't seem to figure out the pension form, which means that my 4 years of college and 1 year of teaching have now officially been for nought.
So, on the claim form for lump-sum withdrawal there is a location for employees: pension insurance registration number and for some odd reason i can't seem to find it anywhere on the little blue book that we've been given or on our monthly salary receipts. Am I looking in the wrong place or just blind?
And then secondly, on the 'History(Public Pension Plan Subscription Process)' box, it says
1. Office (vessel owner's) name and in caseof crew, the vessel name
2. Office (vessel owner's) address or the address when you joined the National pension
3. Work period or the period you were in the National Pension
So...questions are:
1. For Question #1, this is our name right? I'm sorry, I've never been called a vessel before.
2. For Question #2, this is our home address and not our school address?
3. For Question #3, how specific do we have to be about when we joined, just month and year, or do they want legit dates?
Thank you so much and sorry for being such a dumb dumb. :)
incompEtency... just fyi
title has been fixed, but still looking for an answer. :P
Myra,
Believe me, you're not a "dumb dumb" by any means -- the form is terribly confusing and poorly-worded. The talk about "vessels" is referring to sailors' pension, which as you see can is handled with the same form. As an ALT, only "employees' pension insurance" applies to you, so the information provided should be for your employer -- which for you would be the Nagahama Board of Education. So I would fill it out as
1) Nagahama City Board of Education
2) (address of the BOE)
3) (your specific contract period -- I can look this up if you're not sure)
4) circle *2*, "Employees' Pension Insurance"
To be honest, the most important part of the application is the first page (specifically, your name and pension number) and your pension handbook, which you should attach. That should be all they need to successfully process your application -- but being specific with the information on the second page certainly won't hurt.
Hope this helps,
John
Just to make sure I have the right contract period, it's the date your contract first started, up to the last day of your contract, right? So in my case, I'd list, 2003/08/04 - 2008/08/03, right?
Thanks so much, John! Once again the life saver. :)
Sorry! One last question. For the Employees' Pension Insurance Registration Number, is there a specific place we're supposed to be looking for it? I've checked all over my blue book and receipts and just asked my tantosha and nobody seems to know where it could be. She suggested that maybe I don't have one? So...do we not have one? :P Or if we do, where would it be?
Thanks! :)
What if I don't have my pension handbook? I got that thing 3 years ago and I have no clue what's happened to it...can I fill in the form without attaching the pension handbook? I think I know my pension number, so is that good enough?
If not, where can I get a new pension handbook?
(ok, posted something in a panic but found the answer right away. can't figure out how to delete a comment.)
another dumbdumb question:
in the section where we fill out our bank account information (#4), it asks for a "certified bank stamp." are we supposed to come up with this? i don't know how i'd possibly get a bank of america bank stamp. also, i hope that putting down the address name is enough for the "name of the branch" because there are a million locations of my bank in my general area; this is just the one that's closest to my parents' house.
For anyone else who lost their pension handbook, I've been told that you can apply without it as long as you know your pension number.
and yeah, what's the story with the official stamp? the chances of me coming up with a Comerica stamp are..zero. どうしょう？
Hey everyone who was Group A back in 2006, when did our contract start? I can't remember and I don't have a copy of my old contract handy.
For those of you asking about the certified bank stamp, the paperwork says the following: "If a certified bank stamp is not affixed to the claim form, please attach documents which identify the bank name, branch name, account number, and holder's name (must be the claiment himself/herself)."
It should be July 31st, 2006.
i just had my secretary call the board of ed in nagahama, and they said that as long as you have your pension number and handbook, you don't need to fill out the other 3 fields in #5 (pension insurance regirstration number, national pension registration number, employees' pension insurance (seamen's insurance) registration number). he did ask if we got a slip of paper with those numbers on it, but i don't remember...
Hey guys! Does anybody know...
Is it okay that I submitted my dad's bank information instead of my own? On these papers it looks like I should be the "holder" if I'm the one claiming... :-O
I think it's also worth saying, and I don't know why this hasn't been mentioned and why it isnt written in huge fuck-off print on the instructions for the pension thing but your pension paperwork is to be sent in AFTER YOU LEAVE JAPAN!
I sent mine in early because I wanted to get it out of the way and also because my tanto told me to send it, but then I read the JET website and it says to do it after you leave, which for some reason has not been stressed at all. I had my tanto call the pension office in Tokyo and they said they will send the forms back to me and I should re-file them once I've left Japan (you need a copy of your passport page showing that you've terminated your visa and have officially left Japan).
So, if you already filed your papers, have your tanto call and explain it to the people in Tokyo. The number is 03-3335-0800.
The only thing you need to do before you leave Japan is appoint a tax representative.
Oh, and you officially don't need your pension handbook as long as you know the pension number, which I didn't know but some lady at city hall made some phone calls and found it out for me.
it only took two years for me to receive my pension refund!
but now i wanna get the 20% they didn't send. i never designated anyone in japan to receive it for me. now what? help. . .
-mattonabike!
Wow, I really hope it doesn't take me two years to receive mine! I filed mine about two weeks ago. Any idea on when I could expect some money? I was estimating around December or January.
Believe me, you're not a "dumb dumb" by any means -- the form is terribly confusing and poorly-worded. The talk about "vessels" is referring to sailors' pension, which as you see can is handled with the same form. As an ALT, only "employees' pension insurance" applies to you, so the information provided should be for your employer -- which for you would be the Nagahama Board of Education. So I would fill it out as
1) Nagahama City Board of Education
2) (address of the BOE)
3) (your specific contract period -- I can look this up if you're not sure)
4) circle *2*, "Employees' Pension Insurance"
To be honest, the most important part of the application is the first page (specifically, your name and pension number) and your pension handbook, which you should attach. That should be all they need to successfully process your application -- but being specific with the information on the second page certainly won't hurt.
Hope this helps,
John
I sent mine in early because I wanted to get it out of the way and also because my tanto told me to send it, but then I read the JET website and it says to do it after you leave, which for some reason has not been stressed at all. I had my tanto call the pension office in Tokyo and they said they will send the forms back to me and I should re-file them once I've left Japan (you need a copy of your passport page showing that you've terminated your visa and have officially left Japan).
So, if you already filed your papers, have your tanto call and explain it to the people in Tokyo. The number is 03-3335-0800.
The only thing you need to do before you leave Japan is appoint a tax representative.
Oh, and you officially don't need your pension handbook as long as you know the pension number, which I didn't know but some lady at city hall made some phone calls and found it out for me.